vantablack (@vantablack@cyberpunk.lol)
more info
https://social.firesidefedi.live/@firesidefedi/statuses/01K2HPNJ9CGNDWNJEMGCP3NPTG
#FediPact #MoveSlowlyAndBuildBridges #FiresideFedi
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vantablack (@vantablack@cyberpunk.lol)
fireside fedi is gonna be interviewing the author of that book about fedi that i was in tomorrow!!!
https://stream.firesidefedi.live/ for the livestream at 11am eastern tomorrow
https://video.firesidefedi.live/ for watching it after it's done
#FiresideFedi #FediPact #MoveSlowlyAndBuildBridges
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zvavybir (@zvavybir@social.zvavybir.eu)
Content warning:FediPact
The fuck‽‽‽ Fucking Meta(/Facebook) is in the ActivityPub working group?? This is an existential risk to the fediverse! They have to be immediately removed!
https://kolektiva.social/@ophiocephalic/115011238729798011
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fromjason (@fromjason@mastodon.social)
The Threads interpolation was a broad-day heist. They covered it with rosy blog posts, and comments meant to confuse and drain your energy. You remember two years ago, they were all under our posts putting in the work.
Why or how these major tech blogs never caught on to all this, I'll never know.
Never stop talking about it. It'll come to light.
#Fedipact #SocialWebFoundation
From: @ophiocephalic
https://kolektiva.social/@ophiocephalic/115011235861054411
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thenexusofprivacy (@thenexusofprivacy@infosec.exchange)
As you've probably seen or heard Dropsitenews has published a list (from a Meta whistleblower) of "the roughly 100,000 top websites and content delivery network addresses scraped to train Meta's proprietary AI models" -- including quite a few fedi sites. Meta denies everything of course, but they routinely lie through their teeth so who knows. In any case, whether the specific details in the report are accurate, it's certainly a threat worth thinking about.
So I'm wondering what defenses fedi admins are using today to try to defeat scrapers: robots.txt, user-agent blocking, firewall-level blocking of ip ranges, Cloudflare or Fastly AI scraper blocking, Anubis, stuff you don't want to disclose ...
And a couple of more open-ended questions:
Do you feel like your defenses against scraping are generally holding up pretty well?
Are there other approaches that you think might be promising that you just haven't had the time or resources to try?
Do you have any language in your terms of servive that attempts to prohibit training for AI?
Here's @FediPact's post with a link to the Dropsitenews report and (in the replies) a list of fedi instances and CDNs that show up on the list.
https://cyberpunk.lol/@FediPact/114999480874284493
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vantablack (@vantablack@cyberpunk.lol)
i reviewed Move Slowly and Build Bridges: Mastodon, the Fediverse, and the Struggle for Democratic Social Media on amazon lol
#MoveSlowlyAndBuildBridges #FediPact
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display (@display@hub.azkware.net)
The big question is, which of those instances have opted out of federating with Meta? Because for those instances that do want to be accessible from Threads, it's pretty obvious that the behavior is intended to an extent - but for #FediPact members, it's very much a violation of consent
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maniabel (@maniabel@mastodon.de)
#Meta fraß für #KI auch dem #Fedipact verpflichtete insbsondere auch #Mastodon sowie weitere #Fediverse- Instanzen. Norden.social ebenso wie mastodon.de und viele weitere Instanzen.
Die #Bildbeschreibung|en ließen sich doch bestimmt gut als #Prompt|s verwenden, oder?
#DatenHaie folgen nur dem #ManchesterKapitalismus.
Noch mal eine Nacht darüber schlafen, dann entscheiden.
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maniabel (@maniabel@mastodon.de)
#Meta fraß für KI auch #Fedipact- Instanzen. Norden.social ebenso wie mastodon.de und viele weitere Instanzen.
#DatenHaie folgen nur dem ManchesterKapitalismus.
Noch mal eine Nacht darüber schlafen, dann entscheiden.
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onepict (@onepict@chaos.social)
Threads demonstrate why we couldn't trust them. chaos.social being one of the instances Zuckerbergs company scraped for LLama.
"Yes, that data can be scraped. Regardless if they can get at our messages, informed consent is important. If a bad actor gets our data without consent, it reveals that person should never have been trusted with it. We were right to not just hand it over, to federate it. " - me, Consent and the Fediverse , 2023
https://cyberpunk.lol/@FediPact/114999480874284493
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onepict (@onepict@chaos.social)
"By supporting the fedipact we are signalling that we don't consent to interacting with a known abusive actor who revels in their power. Mark Zuckerberg revealed that to us over a decade ago. He revealed what he can do with his power again and again.
You should not trust a company he owns with anything of you. Not your posts, not your contacts, not your metadata." Me - 2023
https://www.onepict.com/consent-fediverse20230627.html
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FediPact (@FediPact@cyberpunk.lol)
i'm gonna be editing that list as i think of more so be sure to view it directly on cyberpunk.lol to make sure you get the whole thingy
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