eyeinthesky (@eyeinthesky@mastodon.social)
Developer perspective on tradeoffs… #ATProto architecture is more centralized. #ActivityPub has JSON-LD. ⚖️ So much pain and confusion, so little benefit and the Fedi Father refuses to consider JSON-LD alternatives because replacing the “feature” that almost no one actually uses with something useful will apparently break the Fediverse.
“This is why we can’t have nice things.” 😬#fedidevs
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smallcircles (@smallcircles@social.coop)
I made a diagram yesterday that contrasts #ActivityPub and #SolidProject that is I think interesting to consider.
In the past I've been very active on the Solid forum, and tried to get a collab going with #SocialHub community. A number of points that existed then, are still issues today I think.
Like, though anyone could participate in the standards process via chat, the Solid team and Inrupt were not really interested in their community, hardly giving attention while people were building interesting stuff there.
Also at the time basically all available code was Javascript, making Solid uninteresting or hard to access for other language devs.
But I think biggest issue was that Solid didn't know what it was. It was positioned as 'personal data vault' on the landing page then (but not using this term), but was 'secretly' TBL's desire to reboot the #SemanticWeb. The new web would be all 'Solid apps'. But the adoption strategy for that didn't exist.
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wjmaggos (@wjmaggos@liberal.city)
imo social media and social networking are different things. mastodon is the former and doesn't need privacy. it's public and about going viral. encryption is needed for the latter. direct messaging and groups. #ActivityPub vs #matrix.
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django (@django@social.coop)
ActivityPub client developer experience is something like this.
Building a coherent feed with stateful objects requires comparing an Activity from the inbox, with what’s in your outbox.
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reiver (@reiver@mastodon.social)
I suspect that there is an error in the Turtle specification, in the section shown in the screen-shot.
(It relates to JSON-LD, which ActivityPub / ActivityStreams is built on.)
I suspect that "PN_CHARS_BASE" is an error.
Because other parts of other specifications seem to not make sense if it is.
I suspect that maybe it should have been "PN_PREFIX" instead.
#ActivityPub #ActivityStreams #RDF #JSONLD
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mfru (@mfru@mastodon.social)
are people on here that have opinions about #Solid (the pod technology not the javascript framework / library)
why is it good / not good?
is it usable?
is it in use?
it doesn't seem to have the same popularity as i.e. #ActivityPub / the #Fediverse, even though the concept of solid pods seems to synergize quite well with the idea of a decentralized web, as far as i can tell
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reiver (@reiver@mastodon.social)
There is a larger discussion about fixed-point numbers versus floating-point numbers.
And that, ALL programming-languages should have fixed-point numbers built into them.
And that, programmers should be warned against using floating-point numbers in all but a set of very specialized situations — where inexact math is OK.
For most programmers in most situations inexact math is NOT OK. And, they should NOT use floating-point numbers.
#ActivityPub #ActivityStreams #JSONLD #RFC7159 #RFC8259
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reiver (@reiver@mastodon.social)
This is likely (directly or indirectly) the fault of a single paragraph in IETF RFC-7159 / RFC-8259 (shown in the attached screen-shot).
(And note that, there is a difference between JSON and IETF JSON. JSON did not have this. IETF JSON does.)
That paragraph (in the IETF RFC) was NOT a requirement. But, others made it a requirement — including JSON-LD.
RE: https://mastodon.social/@reiver/115956356584464586
#ActivityPub #ActivityStreams #JSONLD #RFC7159 #RFC8259
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reiver (@reiver@mastodon.social)
This is from the JSON-LD spec.
ActivityPub / ActivityStream are based on JSON-LD.
I think it was a very bad idea for JSON-LD to define "number" this way!
It makes it so numbers with fractional values are inexact & lossy.
This include values that are common for money.
For example, neither 0.10 and 0.20 can be represented exactly. So, 0.10 + 0.20 does NOT equal 0.30!
It should have used FIXED-point numbers rather than FLOATING-point.
#ActivityPub #ActivityStreams #JSONLD #RFC7159 #RFC8259
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rmdes (@rmdes@indieweb.social)
You are now two clicks away from being able to interact with my #fedify2 #indiekit implementation from your own #activitypub instance.
Yes I totally got inspired from @phanpy or @Mastodon ability to facilitate interactions between different servers
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post (@post@activitypub.space)
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This coming Tuesday (the 24th!) I'll be speaking at FediMTL, super stoked to be talking about my experiences building community on the fediverse.
If you can't make it in-person (the last day to buy in-person tickets is today!), the Social Web Foundation is offering a 50% discount on live streaming tickets with the code SWF50.
Just go here! ➡️ https://lepointdevente.com/billets/mns260224002?lang=en
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smallcircles (@smallcircles@social.coop)
I do note that you argue for backwards "Fediverse-compatibility" here, and I wonder how that equates with backwards #ActivityPub compatibiity.
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