folkerschamel (@folkerschamel@mastodon.social)
That's a deflection again. Nobody doubts that technically both #activitypub and #atproto support decentralization.
But the point is that *in practice* basically all #bluesky users are concentrated on infrastructure of a single company under US jurisdiction, while #mastodon users are distributed over many servers in many jurisdictions all over the world.
The consequences can be seen with Mississippi.
https://mastodon.social/@ikuturso/115124768664434731
https://mastodon.social/@mastodonmigration@mastodon.online/115125132980066617
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notes (@notes@mediaformat.org)
WordPress Comments Roundup
@dpknauss recently posted a round-up of Comment suggestions, and alternatives to WordPress default comments
There are a number of good points in there, that really deserve more space.
I’ll start with the one I disagree with: 3. Disable nested comments. I think comment nesting can be useful for signifying who is being replied to.
4. Enable private comments, this is something I experimented with using activitypub. Currently received activitypub replies/comments without a public scope are dropped. I played around with the inbox hook to allow incoming DM’s, these too have since been announced as part of the 2025 roadmap.
5-7 basically all touch on moderation, and this is one of the points I’m excited about, since the latest plugin release has brought user account level control over blocking, muting
Anyhow, lots to chew on!
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GripNews (@GripNews@mastodon.social)
🌘 去中心化：無人關心，直至需要時
➤ 當伺服器消失時，你的帳號還在嗎？
✤ https://kyefox.com/nobody-cares-about-decentralization-until-they-do/
本文探討了去中心化社交媒體平臺使用者對於「去中心化」概念的普遍漠視，直到遭遇伺服器關閉等突發狀況時，才顯現出其重要性。作者透過對比Mastodon/ActivityPub與Bluesky/AT Protocol在伺服器故障時的使用者帳戶恢復機制，指出Bluesky的技術設計更能保障使用者資料的遷移與存取，提供更佳的「逃生艙」體驗，即使未來出現社羣性的伺服器攻擊或聯盟中斷，使用者也能更容易地轉移至新的服務節點，而Mastodon則因其架構限制，恢復能力較弱。
+ 說得太好了！Mastodon的伺服器關閉問題確實讓人卻步，希望Bluesky能真正實現使用者帳戶的可攜性。
+ 這篇分析很到位，去中心化聽起來很美好，但實際操作和緊急應變能力纔是留住一般用戶的關鍵。
#社交媒體 #去中心化 #ActivityPub #AT Protocol #Bluesky #Mastodon
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inquiline (@inquiline@assemblag.es)
Have the productive discussions about sociotechnical problems and opportunities you want to have, but #ActivityPub partisans should watch out for antiblackness in how they talk about #ATProto.
How awesome would it be to have these conversations about the good things everyone wants, *while breaking racist patterns*?? 7/
Short bibliography in next posts, then fin/
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inquiline (@inquiline@assemblag.es)
some of which iteratively turned into technical features. So, upstream, Black collectivities have been hugely impactful in designating as relevant and subsequently shaping the spaces where we’re now associating to talk about #ATProto and #ActivityPub !!
TL;DR erasing Black contributions to the social web is weird behavior, and it’s also wrongheaded in that *it sets all of us up to perpetuate old exclusions, old harms, and old failures* 6/
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inquiline (@inquiline@assemblag.es)
Why am I talking about hay rakes on a decentralized #opensocialweb network? This history is at play in some of the arguments we’re seeing about #Fediverse #atproto #activitypub right now
Whatever one thinks of Bluesky, *the* most innovative cultural and technical experimental space there right now is Blacksky; *and* it’s also the clearest example of decentralized possibility on the AT protocol. When people double down saying “AT isn’t decentralized”, they are denying that Blacksky exists. 4/
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objects (@objects@social.wedistribute.org)
You’d think people would want to work together to get people off of #BigSocial yet people want to be weird & engage in protocol wars. That lets me know it’s not truly about the public benefit #atproto #activitypub #opensocialweb
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folkerschamel (@folkerschamel@mastodon.social)
Well, I'm just relaying what your colleagues of Bluesky Social PBC are saying, see my previous post - argue with them instead of me.
Or with the people of the Mississippi Free Press, who said that the action of #bluesky is a "significant blow" to them https://www.mississippifreepress.org/editors-note-bluesky-blocks-mississippi-ips-citing-states-age-verification-law-free-speech-and-privacy-concerns/.
But yes, personally I like like the decentralized world of #mastodon and #activitypub without a single corporation controlling the infrastructure and data most users are dependent on.
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talksina (@talksina@mastodon.uno)
I am very sorry not to be able to translate Mark Wilson's last two chapters into @english yet so my English-speaking followers do not know how "piece of trash" ends. But the ActivityPub WordPress plugin has got a relevant feature changelog so I am doing my best to suggest translations into glotpress.
I believe in @pfefferle 's work, so I do my best to fill in translation gaps to spread the word in my language community. #ActivityPub #fediverse #WordPress
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wjmaggos (@wjmaggos@liberal.city)
Would it be possible to build something that looked like #ATproto to #bluesky but also like #ActivityPub? I think there's something to learn from podcatchers also. We need something like a VC model for nonprofit reference projects.
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item (@item@zotum.net)
Is there any information anywhere on how the Flag activity is used in practice?
As ever, the spec only tells me that it exists; it doesn't say anything about what it contains, where it gets delivered to, how the recipient processes it, etc.
Maybe I could find out more by setting up some test instances and experimenting with it, or by trying to trawl through various repositories to find the relevant source code - but it seems a lot quicker to just ask.
#ActivityPub #ActivityPubDev #FediDev #FediDevs
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smallcircles (@smallcircles@social.coop)
Dan Abramov describing #ActivityPub #fediverse on HN:
> "many Twitters talking to each other"
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45077986
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