Imho they are strengths, for sure. The spec shortcomings, protocol decay, and chaotic commons' inability to address them weigh up to a certain amount of resilience in the ecosystem that manages to grow *despite* these drawbacks. And also #ATProto simply by being better specified, documented, and accessible to implementers, has led to such uptake of the de facto standard, that it has become a lightning rod for the kinds of commercial attention we rather avoid for the fediverse (generally speaking).
However, we can do better than chaotic commons, and foster chaordic organization around ecoysystem formation, such that one day we can say that #ActivityPub is truly "commons based", i.e. people are in control, by the people for the people, and able to sustainably evolve and grow naturally.
Chaordic organization is quite fascinating, and it aligns to the social dynamics that are at play on the fediverse between people..
https://coding.social/blog/reimagine-social/#chaordic-organization
With the news of the secret $100 million investment in Bluesky by Bain, I keep thinking about protocols.
Maybe the perceived "drawbacks" of #ActivityPub are ultimately strengths?
#ATproto handles identity in a way that allows a single sign-in across apps. But wouldn't this make it easier to profile you? Is this why crypto VCs are so attracted to it?
And ATproto has funding in the 100s of millions by VCs but at some point they'll want to turn a profit. There is ZERO pressure here to ensh*tt*fy
I have created a separate issue "Protocol design" in the #ActivityPub API repo, cross-referencing to this discussion and the issue I created earlier to "Avoid misconception".
https://github.com/swicg/activitypub-api/issues/66
Cosâè Mastodon e come funziona: Guida semplice al social del Fediverso
(Immagine copertina di Mastodon.it) Mastodon è un social network? La risposta breve è sĂŹ, ma non funziona come le piattaforme a cui siamo stati abituati negli ultimi anni. Se oggi se ne parla sempre di piĂš, è perchĂŠ molte persone sentono il bisogno di trovare alternative ai grandi social centralizzati, dove il controllo è nelle mani di singole aziende e le bacheche sono spesso influenzate da algoritmi poco trasparenti. Allo stesso tempo, però, il primo impatto con Mastodon può [âŚ]https://www.psicospace.it/cose-mastodon-e-come-funziona-guida-semplice-al-social-del-fediverso/

@spencexyz
> My goal is to figure out how I can bring https://
gobikecamping.com/ into the fediverse and help people who love bike touring own their data
I know you've been bombed with a lot of suggestions here, we're all so helpful, sometimes *too* helpful ; )
But if you really want to get your head around the basics of how #ActivityPub works without getting lost in the weeds, I highly recommend;
https://tinysubversions.com/notes/reading-activitypub/
I'm a kindy-level coder, but even I was able to make sense of this.
@spencexyz
> Is there a website that shows federated projects that people are building?
There's a few. I'll leave other maintainers to pitch their own, but I'm involved with;
https://fediverse.party/en/miscellaneous/
... which is based on data gathering on this watchlist;
https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fediparty/wiki/ActivityPub-server-watchlist
FYI they both need some major updates, but I was recently shouldertapped to take over as Lead Goose, and we're working on it!
(1/2)
Lustiges Phänomen im Fediverse: Du kannst einer Person auf einer vĂśllig anderen Instanz folgen, sie boosten, ihr antworten â und beide Server wissen voneinander nichts auĂer dem, was sie sich gegenseitig erzählen. Wie Brieftauben, die das Internet erfunden haben. đŚ
Dezentral klingt kompliziert, fĂźhlt sich aber einfach nur... normal an. So wie das Web mal gedacht war.
#Fediverse #Mastodon #ActivityPub #Dezentralisierung
I have added the ability to my #activitypub deployment to subscribe to https://tags.pub federated hashtags but even tho Iâm subscribed to a bunch of tags Iâm not getting any content.
đ¤ something is wrong and an afternoon debugging this proved a few issues but now Iâm not sure what else to investigate to make this workâŚ
Currently my only working Hashtag explorer from the Fediverse is built on fetching public server API timelines and kind of grep Hashtags from a selection of public servers, this allows me to build a multi instance hashtag timeline, itâs nice but I really wanted to get tags.pub working.
đ https://rmendes.net/notes/2026/03/22/48fbd
Or should I say ActivityPub... #activityPub #migration #fail #webdev #social
@davew@threads.net @davew@mastodon.social
makes me sad that anybody prefers #ATproto to #ActivityPub, especially @zeldman. doesn't it naturally concentrate control in large app views?