sor (@sor@arkm.social)
Guten Morgen. Das Projekt #Cloudron ist seit Tagen im Gange. #Webpros hat mit seinen unverschämten Lizenzverteuerungen wohl mit Zitronen gehandelt. Am Ende werden die bei uns vielleicht noch 20% ihres Umsatzes bei uns haben. Ich kann es aktuell nur jedem Raten: jegliche Lizenzpreiserhöhung muss immer zu einer Alternativprüfung führen. Ansonsten werden gewisse Firmen immer gieriger. Von #Microsoft kennen wir das ja schon seit Jahrzehnten…
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sor (@sor@arkm.social)
Guten Morgen. Seit 2022 drehen alle an der Preisschraube. Fast jährlich werden #Domainkosten erhöht. Und auch Lizenzen werden teilweise unverschämt immer teurer. Aktuell übertreibt es #Plesk aka #webpros. Ja, es sind „nur“ 5 Euro pro Monat. Insgesamt zahlen wir im Jahr nun ca. 2500 EUR mehr! Wofür? Reaktion: Hosts mit nur einem #Internetportal werden aktuell auf #cloudron umgestellt. Aber es kostet unnötig viel #arbeitszeit in den Abendstunden #webmaster #linux 😡
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naferrell (@naferrell@social.emucafe.org)
https://social.emucafe.org/naferrell/wordpress-with-hetzner-and-cloudron-08-17-25/
Steven Rosenberg wrote an interesting post about being somewhat inclined to move his blog to WordPress for the built-in commenting system, but being dissatisfied with the hosting options. I posted my own solution as a suggestion (comment pending approval at press time), but I thought I would expand a bit here.
I host both this site and The New Leaf Journal on a Hetzer VPS server. It costs between $5-6 per month with a little bit of extra storage. I manage the server with Cloudron’s free plan. Cloudron provides a robust server management UI and automatically configures WordPress (and optionally Redis). It has an excellent built-in file manager and domain management system. Otherwise, it stays out of the way and allows me to manage my WordPress sites as if it were not there. There are a few caveats. Firstly, Cloudron itself requires some server resources. Secondly, Cloudron is, at its core, a paid service, and I suppose the terms of its free plan could change any time (I would probably consider the paid plan to be cost-prohibitive for my use-case, especially since I would need a more expensive server to take advantage of being able to host more public-facing apps).
(For those interested, I wrote an article about using the free version of the UpdraftPlus plugin to “move” The New Leaf Journal from Bluehost to Hetzner back in 2022. I used the same process to move from a bigger Hetzner VPS to a smaller one back in 2024.)
Another solution is Pikapods. Pikapods provides paid hosting for individual docker apps. WordPress starts at $1.70 per month, but can be more expensive depending on how much CPU, RAM, and storage the user gives to the WordPress pod. I use Pikapods for Miniflux and Wallabag (not WordPress, although I did briefly test a WordPress install) and have had good experiences with it thus far. It does not have a management UI, but does allow SFTP access to the app’s files. There are quick and easy directions for connecting the WordPress install (or any PikaPods app) to a custom domain.
#cloudron #hetzner #pikapods #webhosting #wordpress #wordpressComments
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louischance (@louischance@piaille.fr)
@deljones Hi Del thanks for your help, well what I'm curious about is how to ensure the instance can scale and support a large amount of users, especially for video calls. I've been running 2 #Nextcloud instances for years using #Hetzner Storage Share in combination with an #OnlyOffice instance run through #Yunohost. It works great but for calls involving 3+ participants a High Performance Backend is required. Is that something you've used yourself?
The 3 options I picture are:
- using Nextcloud AIO on a good VPS.
- installing NextCloud through Yunohost or #Cloudron and link to a separate HPB server.
- same as previous but with Hetzner storage share.
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louischance (@louischance@piaille.fr)
And to clarify, the use case is professional, with scalability and maintainability in mind. That's why I'm leaning towards #cloudron to easily add and manage other apps later on (I like the fact that every app has its own container and can be independently backed-up and restored in 2 clicks).
The HPB is somehow needed to allow video calls with more than 2 persons. Setting up a server for HPB that could be used for several Nextcloud instances is a possibility I'm considering.
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sor (@sor@arkm.social)
Habe mich in den letzten Tagen mit #Plesk Alternativen beschäftigt. Für sowas ist es echt gut, einen eigenen Testserver im Keller zu haben. #Cloudron - #proxmox und #froxlor waren im Fokus. Alle haben ihre eigenen Stärken und Schwächen. Plesk ist dagegen allerdings #goldstandard und wird bei mir Nummer Eins bleiben. Gerade bei über 40 eigene Instanzen ist es wichtig schnell zu wissen, wo welche Schalter sind. Auch der isolierte Zugang zur #SSH Shell (bei geschlossenem Port 22) ist hilfreich.
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didier (@didier@malenfant.net)
I’m happy with the state of my agate app for @cloudron. My Gemini site is now hosted on it and it seems pretty solid.
I posted the source for it in case anyone is interested:
https://code.malenfant.net/didier/agate-app
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NerdRelaxo (@NerdRelaxo@mastodon.social)
Scheint zu funktionieren. Also ein #Tailscale Exit-Node in Deutschland ist sehr praktisch. ^^ Wenn jetzt noch Tailscale für #Cloudron käme, dann könnte ich den auch bequem auf meinen netcup Server legen. #Joyn
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didier (@didier@malenfant.net)
🥳 I made a thing! 🥳
If someone is interested in testing a Gemini server for @cloudron please take a look at https://hub.docker.com/r/didiermalenfant/net.malenfant.agate
It may not be production ready yet as I'm still learning a lot here but I have it installed on a test server and it seems to work ok.
Any feedback welcomed! 🙏🏻
#Cloudron #Gemini #SmallWeb #Agate #SelfHosting
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didier (@didier@malenfant.net)
So I may have packaged my first #cloudron app yesterday. I need to setup a test server so I can install it and see what happens. #AlwaysLearning
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cloudron (@cloudron@social.cloudron.io)
And another new app package dropped for your #cloudron 😃 This time Beszel a nice app to monitor all your docker containers on another server: https://beszel.dev/
As usual announcement with more details: https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/13880/beszel-is-now-available
#SelfHosting #homelab #selfhost
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kaschmir (@kaschmir@social.tchncs.de)
🔴 Bei Nextcloud-Server viele Updates
➡️ Habe mal auf mein Home-Server von #cloudron meine Benachrichtigungen ausgelesen, auffällig viele Updates bei #nextcloud
➡️ 11 Updates seit März
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